Colin Baker’s Harsh Words For Steven Moffat

Colin Baker has been harshly critical of Steven Moffat and the plans for the 50th anniversary of Doctor Who.

Sixth Doctor actor Baker, who played the character from 1984 to 1986, told Attractions Magazine that the classic series Doctors are seen as “surplus baggage” and “deemed unworthy of inclusion” in The Day of the Doctor.

Colin went on to reiterate that none of the actors from the classic run will feature in the episode.

“I’m not in it. I can say that Peter isn’t because I’ve seen him recently. And I can tell you that Sylvester isn’t, and neither is Paul. None of us have been deemed worthy of inclusion in a programme that celebrates 50 years of a British television programme, of which I was in it for three. We are surplus baggage.”

Interestingly Colin doesn’t mention Tom Baker, but this likely due to the fact he hasn’t spoken with or heard any statement from Tom rather than any clue as to the fourth Doctor making an appearance in the show.

Colin, Peter, Sylvester and Paul (the true fab four!) however have filmed some description of material as revealed by Sean Pertwee last month. It’s still not known what the material entails or whether it will be broadcast in some form over the 50th anniversary period.

19 Comments on Colin Baker’s Harsh Words For Steven Moffat

  1. Harsh words?

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  2. John Symons // November 11, 2013 at 20:11 //

    No offence to three of the ‘fab four’ but all aside from Paul McGann look somewhat different now to their heyday in the roles and wouldn’t really look very convincing in their old costumes. SM has already said that while the anniversary ep is a celebration, it’s more about looking forwards than backwards.

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    • David Blake // November 11, 2013 at 22:19 //

      And you got to go forwards to go back. A quote from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. LOL

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    • Kimberly Stewart // November 12, 2013 at 06:41 //

      I’d like to counter point you with an example. For BBC children in need fundraising they did the short episode “Time Crash”(BBC 2007), featuring David Tennant and the fifth doctor, Peter Davison in his fifth doctor costume with no major changes! Time Lords, hello, time is not a constraint on costuming. I understand that they want to look forward, but they also need to acknowledge where they began and how they made it to 50 years.

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      • John Symons // November 12, 2013 at 08:01 //

        I’m sure they will acknowledge where the show began and I’m sure we’ll be seeing plenty of flashbacks of old Drs via old film footage – in fact SM seems more keen than earlier producers to show us old Drs via flashback. To quote Tom Baker: “I just don’t want to be paraded through as some shagged out old icon of the last century.”

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      • Such a thing is OK for a (comedic) short, but for a full episode it just ruins the suspension of disbelief (Colin Bakers Doctor was still young when he regenerated into Sylvester McCoy and thats how I want to remember him).

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  3. Cyberman12 // November 11, 2013 at 21:18 //

    Dreadfull about not asking them back and it doesnt matter how old they look now

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  4. I think they need to look at it from another point of view. Yes, they will be missed in the 50th, but they don’t look like they did 30 years ago unfortunately. Time has caught up with them. You wouldn’t recognize them in the roles at all. Peter and Paul could of most likely gotten away with it but the others unfortunately cannot.

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  5. To be honest I’m absolutely gutted about this. I’ve been a Doctor Who fan for 30 yrs (started watching with Peter Davison). I don’t care what they look like now, they have made a valuable contribution to keeping the show going for 50 yrs. This special looks like it’ll only be celebrating the past 8 yrs of Doctor Who. I was hoping they would be in it but Colin has made it quite clear they aren’t. This will be a massive dissapointment and an incredible missed opportunity.

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  6. Sorry but… I see no harsh words here dude…

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  7. in a one of the stories the 5th Dr mentions that he was disturbed by something that happenes when u die as he saw previous incarnations of himself older than when they had regenerated, so they could have went with that sort of storyline to include some of the best parts of Dr Who ive said before its split in 2 now u always hear theres Classic Dr Who then when u hear people talk of dr Who without mentioning classic they are always talking about the new series in the classic they had to mainly rely on the story now its all effects and a lot of the stories havnt been up there

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  8. The NuHu 8th anniversary special is failing to generate much excitement in this household.

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  9. It would have been nice to have walk on roles kinda like Hitchcock. That way they would have been recognized and acknowledged, yet not have their current image conflict with past images of the Doctor.

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  10. I understand the mentality of excluding the “Fab 4” as far as playing their version of the Doctor; like many have said they have aged to much. I really think it comes down to a continuity issue: we saw their regenerations, that was the end of their Doctor’s life – from a storyline prospective it would be weird for them to show up being noticeably older then when they “died.” That being said, there could have been a cameo or special including them, kind of like with Peter Davison and 10. From the looks of the Anniversary though, it may be a little too action packed to give them cameo’s without it being just a strange shout-out. As for Paul McGann, my money is on John Hurt being an older version of the Eighth so it would make no sense to have them both at the same time.

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    • If John Hurt is “an older version of the Eight” all of the other doctors can have their “older version” so they could be in the special… However, you said that they regenerated and they couldn’t be in the special looking older than they were when they “died” and Eight also regenerated to Nine somewhere is his timeline, so he is not able to have “an older version”. John Hurt is the last doctor, whovians have to deal with it and stop making excuses for him to have one more regeneration. They are 13 and that’s the end of it. And that should be great! All songs must end!

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      • While it’s recently been revealed that John Hurt’s Doctor is a separate regeneration (between 8 and “9”) before the short they just released showing that, Paul McGann’s Doctor very well could have had an “older version” (and sort of did, since it’s been 17 years since we last saw him) as until this point, we had not seen his regeneration. They’ve tied that off now, but none of the other actors to play him would have ever had that opportunity (barring space/time disruption, alla Peter Davidson) because we saw them all “die” at a certain age.

        Also, this is science fiction. I can think of ten ways right now that they could fix the regeneration limit problem.

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  11. They should be in it. They each made up a piece that contributed to the show lasting 50 years, and as much as i like the new uptodate version, that’s only 8 years of the 50. As for their appearance, the 5 Doctors, the 2 Doctors and Time Crash showed older looking Doctors, not only did nobody care as it was good to see them back, but Steven Moffat’s own Time Crash gave an in-story reason why they look older when they meet up.

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